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		<title>By: ben.kevan</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9576</link>
		<dc:creator>ben.kevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 16:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish you would have left a valid email address so I could actually contact you.. Would you be interested in writing something that&#039;s a little more &quot;Ubuntu&quot; biased?</description>
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		<title>By: jssfgj</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9550</link>
		<dc:creator>jssfgj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was EXTREMELY biased towards openSUSE. I could tell you were trying to make it sound equal, but the whole article was obviously centered around promoting openSUSE over Ubuntu.
Personally, I use Ubuntu (I&#039;m on Ubuntu right now) and it works great. 
Good article anyhow.
I chose Ubuntu over SUSE because Ubuntu is light on resources and my computer is very lacking in resources.
Specs:
Pentium 4 3.0ghz with hyperthreading
1gb RAM.
and piece of shit onboard graphics card.
And I was originally running Vista 32bit basic. And it SUCKSSS... (and lags. I don&#039;t think my computer meets the min requirements for vista)
Oh one more thing I forgot to mention. Ubuntu has wubi which is an installer that installs Ubuntu directly in windows like a program. No need to partition or configure your hard drive or anything. And if you don&#039;t want it just go to control panel and uninstall. No messing with partitions.
So my piece of advice: Ubuntu. It actually is way user friendlier and the easy installation is a lot more than you covered. Just google wubi. (I can be biased too)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was EXTREMELY biased towards openSUSE. I could tell you were trying to make it sound equal, but the whole article was obviously centered around promoting openSUSE over Ubuntu.<br />
Personally, I use Ubuntu (I&#8217;m on Ubuntu right now) and it works great.<br />
Good article anyhow.<br />
I chose Ubuntu over SUSE because Ubuntu is light on resources and my computer is very lacking in resources.<br />
Specs:<br />
Pentium 4 3.0ghz with hyperthreading<br />
1gb RAM.<br />
and piece of shit onboard graphics card.<br />
And I was originally running Vista 32bit basic. And it SUCKSSS&#8230; (and lags. I don&#8217;t think my computer meets the min requirements for vista)<br />
Oh one more thing I forgot to mention. Ubuntu has wubi which is an installer that installs Ubuntu directly in windows like a program. No need to partition or configure your hard drive or anything. And if you don&#8217;t want it just go to control panel and uninstall. No messing with partitions.<br />
So my piece of advice: Ubuntu. It actually is way user friendlier and the easy installation is a lot more than you covered. Just google wubi. (I can be biased too)</p>
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		<title>By: WaltCorey</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9179</link>
		<dc:creator>WaltCorey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 02:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-9024&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ben.kevan &lt;/a&gt; 

That would be outstanding Ben, articles comparing recent opensuse vs F12?, u9.10, u9.10 vs F12, etc.

I have to agree with the comments regarding nothing is static. I&#039;ve bounced between Fedora and Ubuntu over the years. In fact, I went to Ubuntu on the advice of a Linux Kernel developer where I then worked who, upon hearing my horror stories of Fedora care and feeding recommended Ubuntu as it &quot;just worked&quot;. I think Ubuntu still has some work to do with respect to recognizing and utilizing a multi drive raid capable bios. When I installed F-something it saw the two drives and the firmware raid and installed LVM under raid 0 no muss no fuss. When I felt Fedora required too many acts of love, I tried Ubuntu and it didn&#039;t know anything about LVM or firmaware raid and set up my two drives as sda and sdb, rather than a single logical volume tha just happened to span two physical volumes. Ubuntu will now do that but only when installing via the alternate installation media. What happened to &quot;it just works&quot;?

Evolution, in an Exchange environment largely is brain dead. It would be nice to see someone (Novell or Mozilla) address that. Athough an iPhone seems to handle Exchange well, I am perplexed why a Linux environment can&#039;t. (yes, I know, slightly off topic).

What I&#039;d like to see is a Linux distro where, whatever is there, works and works flawlessly. Not an environment where only a mother, or Linux software developer, could love it. I think that was my main complaint with Fedora, it was, by design, too bleeding edge. 

On one last note. I upgraded several U8.10 systems to U9.04 no problems. I had nightmares and one minor coronary upgrading 9.04 to 9.10. I upgraded flawlessly on an X86 laptop and X86-64 quad core with 8GB. However, when it failed on the 3rd box, it failed big time. Again, what happened to &quot;it just works&quot;? I do really like U9.10 but it did, unfortunately, require a huge labor of love to get that third system running again. 

I would like to note repeat that experience, with anything.

It would also be really nice if Firefox got 100% flash, or whatever, compatible with IE. I am not 100% convinced though it is FF, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn&#039;t. It would seem likely it is FF though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-9024" rel="nofollow">@ben.kevan </a> </p>
<p>That would be outstanding Ben, articles comparing recent opensuse vs F12?, u9.10, u9.10 vs F12, etc.</p>
<p>I have to agree with the comments regarding nothing is static. I&#8217;ve bounced between Fedora and Ubuntu over the years. In fact, I went to Ubuntu on the advice of a Linux Kernel developer where I then worked who, upon hearing my horror stories of Fedora care and feeding recommended Ubuntu as it &#8220;just worked&#8221;. I think Ubuntu still has some work to do with respect to recognizing and utilizing a multi drive raid capable bios. When I installed F-something it saw the two drives and the firmware raid and installed LVM under raid 0 no muss no fuss. When I felt Fedora required too many acts of love, I tried Ubuntu and it didn&#8217;t know anything about LVM or firmaware raid and set up my two drives as sda and sdb, rather than a single logical volume tha just happened to span two physical volumes. Ubuntu will now do that but only when installing via the alternate installation media. What happened to &#8220;it just works&#8221;?</p>
<p>Evolution, in an Exchange environment largely is brain dead. It would be nice to see someone (Novell or Mozilla) address that. Athough an iPhone seems to handle Exchange well, I am perplexed why a Linux environment can&#8217;t. (yes, I know, slightly off topic).</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to see is a Linux distro where, whatever is there, works and works flawlessly. Not an environment where only a mother, or Linux software developer, could love it. I think that was my main complaint with Fedora, it was, by design, too bleeding edge. </p>
<p>On one last note. I upgraded several U8.10 systems to U9.04 no problems. I had nightmares and one minor coronary upgrading 9.04 to 9.10. I upgraded flawlessly on an X86 laptop and X86-64 quad core with 8GB. However, when it failed on the 3rd box, it failed big time. Again, what happened to &#8220;it just works&#8221;? I do really like U9.10 but it did, unfortunately, require a huge labor of love to get that third system running again. </p>
<p>I would like to note repeat that experience, with anything.</p>
<p>It would also be really nice if Firefox got 100% flash, or whatever, compatible with IE. I am not 100% convinced though it is FF, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn&#8217;t. It would seem likely it is FF though.</p>
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		<title>By: sreekanth</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9027</link>
		<dc:creator>sreekanth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 01:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i had installled ubuntu ultimate 2.2 on my system with duall boot with xp ( iam silent lover of linux) but ubuntu fucks with sound since i installed in seperate partition immediately i formated is there will be simlar issuees in open suse???? becoz i dont want to again format my partition...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i had installled ubuntu ultimate 2.2 on my system with duall boot with xp ( iam silent lover of linux) but ubuntu fucks with sound since i installed in seperate partition immediately i formated is there will be simlar issuees in open suse???? becoz i dont want to again format my partition&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ben.kevan</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9024</link>
		<dc:creator>ben.kevan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 23:57:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am going to work on new articles for: 

opensuse vs fedora
opensuse vs ubuntu
fedora vs ubuntu 

So please stay tuned.. thank you for the visit. 

And on that note.. both openSUSE 11.2 and Ubuntu 9.10 have gotten better since my previous writings..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to work on new articles for: </p>
<p>opensuse vs fedora<br />
opensuse vs ubuntu<br />
fedora vs ubuntu </p>
<p>So please stay tuned.. thank you for the visit. </p>
<p>And on that note.. both openSUSE 11.2 and Ubuntu 9.10 have gotten better since my previous writings..</p>
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		<title>By: AKitz</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-9021</link>
		<dc:creator>AKitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this article. At first, I thought wow, openSUSE must really kick ass if it&#039;s that much better than Ubuntu. Then I noticed that this article dates from June 2008! Do you think the information here may be just a little outdated? I don&#039;t think Ubuntu has been sleeping since this article was written up. On the contrary. This article wouldn&#039;t be a big deal if openSUSE Fans weren&#039;t still passing this around like it was written last week. 

I&#039;m sure that earlier builds of Ubuntu left much to be desired. Things change. I only started using Ubuntu at 9.04 and now use 9.10. Unlike Microsoft, Ubuntu is very responsive and proactive in keeping Ubuntu evolving and improving. Many of the features mentioned here that are in contrast to one another are not a real issue anymore. For example, as far as I can tell, Ubuntu has since been able to handle both KDE and Gnome as well. 

All I can say is that if Ubuntu sucks that bad, why is Microsoft trying hard to copy it? Win7 looks almost exactly like Ubuntu. In fact: Microsoft is going to release a blatant copy of Ubuntu for its&#039; Netbook edition of Win7 in the near future if they haven&#039;t already. 

Since both openSUSE and Ubuntu have the LiveCD function, why not try both out. Make sure you have current versions of each. After trying out both again, stick with the one that works best for you and your needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this article. At first, I thought wow, openSUSE must really kick ass if it&#8217;s that much better than Ubuntu. Then I noticed that this article dates from June 2008! Do you think the information here may be just a little outdated? I don&#8217;t think Ubuntu has been sleeping since this article was written up. On the contrary. This article wouldn&#8217;t be a big deal if openSUSE Fans weren&#8217;t still passing this around like it was written last week. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that earlier builds of Ubuntu left much to be desired. Things change. I only started using Ubuntu at 9.04 and now use 9.10. Unlike Microsoft, Ubuntu is very responsive and proactive in keeping Ubuntu evolving and improving. Many of the features mentioned here that are in contrast to one another are not a real issue anymore. For example, as far as I can tell, Ubuntu has since been able to handle both KDE and Gnome as well. </p>
<p>All I can say is that if Ubuntu sucks that bad, why is Microsoft trying hard to copy it? Win7 looks almost exactly like Ubuntu. In fact: Microsoft is going to release a blatant copy of Ubuntu for its&#8217; Netbook edition of Win7 in the near future if they haven&#8217;t already. </p>
<p>Since both openSUSE and Ubuntu have the LiveCD function, why not try both out. Make sure you have current versions of each. After trying out both again, stick with the one that works best for you and your needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tonguc Yumruk</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8979</link>
		<dc:creator>Tonguc Yumruk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 09:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OpenSuse (Novel Property (Microsoft&#039;s Puppet)) is no match for Ubuntu.</description>
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		<title>By: Segfault</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8856</link>
		<dc:creator>Segfault</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what version of Ubuntu you installed, but mine came with AppArmor pre-installed.</description>
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		<title>By: Philip</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8823</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article, I mostly agree. Actually I did use Ubuntu for some time, since 5.10. Before that I was using Gentoo and before that SuSE. But now I&#039;m completely fed up with Ubuntu. The updating processing is extremely crappy. Some years ago I upgraded my 5.10 to 6.06. This was a bit messy but ok, it worked. I had for a long time an excellent working Ubuntu LTS. But later I needed more current software and I upgraded. That rendered my system nearly unusable. 

I was able to fix it but that&#039;s not the reason we are using Linux Distributions, right? I want to spend my time with using a nice default system where all of my hardware and software works but not spend hours and maybe even days configuring my desktop system. (Can be fun too of course...)

Anyway I got a new computer some time later and I installed Ubuntu 8.04. That was no good release. So I upgraded shortly later to 8.10. That worked much better for me. Well, yesterday I upgraded to 9.04 and guess what, sound didn&#039;t work, lot&#039;s of graphic errors appeared, internet was very slow (because there are supporting IPv6 now...), firefox crashed frequently, other X applications freezed or crashed randomly. After being able to fix most issues today I wasn&#039;t able to recover the sound. (I booted and there was no sound...) That made me switch to OpenSuSE 11.1.

I installed it via the Live CD. Thanks to LVM that was no big deal. But I can&#039;t really recommend it to Linux-Newbies. Took me some time to make the DSL work and the pre-installation YaST-interface had some bugs. And the boot manager - and partition configuration in general - is kind of confusion although it most options you can think of.

But what I like most of the new system... The desktop is *much* faster and more reactive! Really nice. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article, I mostly agree. Actually I did use Ubuntu for some time, since 5.10. Before that I was using Gentoo and before that SuSE. But now I&#8217;m completely fed up with Ubuntu. The updating processing is extremely crappy. Some years ago I upgraded my 5.10 to 6.06. This was a bit messy but ok, it worked. I had for a long time an excellent working Ubuntu LTS. But later I needed more current software and I upgraded. That rendered my system nearly unusable. </p>
<p>I was able to fix it but that&#8217;s not the reason we are using Linux Distributions, right? I want to spend my time with using a nice default system where all of my hardware and software works but not spend hours and maybe even days configuring my desktop system. (Can be fun too of course&#8230;)</p>
<p>Anyway I got a new computer some time later and I installed Ubuntu 8.04. That was no good release. So I upgraded shortly later to 8.10. That worked much better for me. Well, yesterday I upgraded to 9.04 and guess what, sound didn&#8217;t work, lot&#8217;s of graphic errors appeared, internet was very slow (because there are supporting IPv6 now&#8230;), firefox crashed frequently, other X applications freezed or crashed randomly. After being able to fix most issues today I wasn&#8217;t able to recover the sound. (I booted and there was no sound&#8230;) That made me switch to OpenSuSE 11.1.</p>
<p>I installed it via the Live CD. Thanks to LVM that was no big deal. But I can&#8217;t really recommend it to Linux-Newbies. Took me some time to make the DSL work and the pre-installation YaST-interface had some bugs. And the boot manager &#8211; and partition configuration in general &#8211; is kind of confusion although it most options you can think of.</p>
<p>But what I like most of the new system&#8230; The desktop is *much* faster and more reactive! Really nice. <img src='http://www.freetechie.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Steven Birnam</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8798</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Birnam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely appreciate your .RPM downloads for Google Chrome.
I have to agree with your comparison of openSUSE and Ubuntu, but have to tell you that I worked with both (after being exasperated with Microsoft - XP gave me heartburn, but Vista was about to give me a heart attack. So no more Service Packs, anc definitely no Windows - except for the copy loaded on a VirtualBox, the only place it&#039;s safe and sound), and after several installation glitches, fights with package managers, and updates that clobbered settings, I tried Fedora.
Now, Fedora isn&#039;t perfect, nor is it Unbreakable, but it was far easier to install the latest release of Fedora, and live with the new package manager, than to cope with my latter OSs.
Now that you have compared the best of Debian with, seemingly your favourite, .RPM system (BTW: I used to really like working with Novell solutions - they really understood networking, but when are they going to offer a real solution for collaboration - I am still waiting to see a Kablink that most of us want to implement and use on our Open Systems machines), I would like to see what you find in a campison of openSUSE and Fedora.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely appreciate your .RPM downloads for Google Chrome.<br />
I have to agree with your comparison of openSUSE and Ubuntu, but have to tell you that I worked with both (after being exasperated with Microsoft &#8211; XP gave me heartburn, but Vista was about to give me a heart attack. So no more Service Packs, anc definitely no Windows &#8211; except for the copy loaded on a VirtualBox, the only place it&#8217;s safe and sound), and after several installation glitches, fights with package managers, and updates that clobbered settings, I tried Fedora.<br />
Now, Fedora isn&#8217;t perfect, nor is it Unbreakable, but it was far easier to install the latest release of Fedora, and live with the new package manager, than to cope with my latter OSs.<br />
Now that you have compared the best of Debian with, seemingly your favourite, .RPM system (BTW: I used to really like working with Novell solutions &#8211; they really understood networking, but when are they going to offer a real solution for collaboration &#8211; I am still waiting to see a Kablink that most of us want to implement and use on our Open Systems machines), I would like to see what you find in a campison of openSUSE and Fedora.</p>
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		<title>By: ben2talk</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8792</link>
		<dc:creator>ben2talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 09:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-6227&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@E@zyVG &lt;/a&gt; 

Wow, but Yast is what stopped me. After installing from CD, SuSe proved it&#039;s security by asking me for a login and password before I&#039;d set up any account!

Once I sorted that out, I fired up Yast and spent the next hour trying to click exit exit no no - it&#039;s impossible to get out!!! Yast just takes over your system.

I worked at it for a week, then went back to Ubuntu. Sorry to disappoint.

&quot;The problem with most people is that they have a perception of Microsoft as being an unforgiving dictator. They don’t realize that it is one of the most successful companies that has never seen losses in all the years that it has existed, except probably until recently&quot; - incredible statement. Do you have any idea how Microsoft works? Why do you think Dell even print &#039;Recommends Windows XP&#039; on the website for their Linux Netbook sales? Do you think it&#039;s through choice?

Microsoft are the Mafia. Do we put up with Mafia because we choose their service over the competition?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-6227" rel="nofollow">@E@zyVG </a> </p>
<p>Wow, but Yast is what stopped me. After installing from CD, SuSe proved it&#8217;s security by asking me for a login and password before I&#8217;d set up any account!</p>
<p>Once I sorted that out, I fired up Yast and spent the next hour trying to click exit exit no no &#8211; it&#8217;s impossible to get out!!! Yast just takes over your system.</p>
<p>I worked at it for a week, then went back to Ubuntu. Sorry to disappoint.</p>
<p>&#8220;The problem with most people is that they have a perception of Microsoft as being an unforgiving dictator. They don’t realize that it is one of the most successful companies that has never seen losses in all the years that it has existed, except probably until recently&#8221; &#8211; incredible statement. Do you have any idea how Microsoft works? Why do you think Dell even print &#8216;Recommends Windows XP&#8217; on the website for their Linux Netbook sales? Do you think it&#8217;s through choice?</p>
<p>Microsoft are the Mafia. Do we put up with Mafia because we choose their service over the competition?</p>
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		<title>By: runxc1</title>
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		<dc:creator>runxc1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have always liked both distros but you really need to look at what you are going to do.  As for me I am a .Net developer and with the advent of Mono I found openSuse to be much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have always liked both distros but you really need to look at what you are going to do.  As for me I am a .Net developer and with the advent of Mono I found openSuse to be much better.</p>
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		<title>By: language translation software</title>
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		<dc:creator>language translation software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 16:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I strongly recommend that you turn the No Follow off in your comment section. I&#039;ll watch Google Webmaster Tools, and if the links don&#039;t show up after a couple of weeks --- I won&#039;t go back to that blog again. Another suggestion:  you should have a Top Commentator widget installed. Do Follow and Top Commentator will ensure that you have a successful blog with lots of readers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I strongly recommend that you turn the No Follow off in your comment section. I&#8217;ll watch Google Webmaster Tools, and if the links don&#8217;t show up after a couple of weeks &#8212; I won&#8217;t go back to that blog again. Another suggestion:  you should have a Top Commentator widget installed. Do Follow and Top Commentator will ensure that you have a successful blog with lots of readers!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben2talk</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8124</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben2talk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 18:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished trying to make my home with the new SuSe 11.1 - and I have to say it&#039;s a real pig after using Ubuntu. Sure it has lots of menu&#039;s, but then - who needs menu&#039;s?

KDE DOES GO SLOW, and the boot time is slow. Ubuntu 9.04, if you install with ext4, boots almost silently to desktop in about 25 seconds - SuSe 11.1 freshly installed took almost double that - probably because of the graphics and splash screens. I&#039;d rather have a faster boot.

YAST2 totally dominates your system. When I tried to get my nVidia driver, my internet cut during a storm - you&#039;re not allowed to log out (Yast2 says NO!) so you either power off - or click like crazy. ABORT, &#039;yast2 curl can&#039;t access the domain, quit?&#039; You have to do this for every single item on your list... but the option to abort or skip doesn&#039;t come up for at least half a minute, your system is frozen.

With synaptic, and apt-get - Ubuntu is so easy for getting software and customising. The next thing I added with YAST was a one-click solution - took me an hour before I could make it work - and when Gwibber was installed, SuSe told me happily that I couldn&#039;t run it on a KDE desktop.

With Ubuntu, if I install Gnome OR KDE applications, it gets all of the libraries (For Amarok, I think the bigger part of the downloads are the KDE libraries that don&#039;t come with a Gnome desktop - but with SuSe it doesn&#039;t bother, just says it won&#039;t work!!)

After installing nVidia, it said &#039;edit your Xorg file and reboot&#039;
It did NOT tell me the location of the file, or what to edit!!!

Ubuntu sometimes tells you to do something in terminal, and it&#039;s so easy &#039;edit your etc/bash.rc file&#039; and it also tells you exactly what to edit.

It takes an hour to download and install 30 themes from gnome-desktop sites, and after doing that, your desktop looks better than ANY freshly installed distro.

Compiz runs more smoothly on Ubuntu than any distro I tried also.

No competition, apt-get has super powers.

cowsay moo

(If you have Ubuntu, stick that in your terminal :P if you don&#039;t have cowsay, it will tell you what to do.. just try it!)
_____

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        \   ^__^
         \  (oo)\_______
            (__)\       )\/\
                &#124;&#124;----w &#124;
                &#124;&#124;     &#124;&#124;

Not sure it will look right after posting, the font will be changed... but you can cut and paste it into terminal to get the right effect. Sooo cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished trying to make my home with the new SuSe 11.1 &#8211; and I have to say it&#8217;s a real pig after using Ubuntu. Sure it has lots of menu&#8217;s, but then &#8211; who needs menu&#8217;s?</p>
<p>KDE DOES GO SLOW, and the boot time is slow. Ubuntu 9.04, if you install with ext4, boots almost silently to desktop in about 25 seconds &#8211; SuSe 11.1 freshly installed took almost double that &#8211; probably because of the graphics and splash screens. I&#8217;d rather have a faster boot.</p>
<p>YAST2 totally dominates your system. When I tried to get my nVidia driver, my internet cut during a storm &#8211; you&#8217;re not allowed to log out (Yast2 says NO!) so you either power off &#8211; or click like crazy. ABORT, &#8216;yast2 curl can&#8217;t access the domain, quit?&#8217; You have to do this for every single item on your list&#8230; but the option to abort or skip doesn&#8217;t come up for at least half a minute, your system is frozen.</p>
<p>With synaptic, and apt-get &#8211; Ubuntu is so easy for getting software and customising. The next thing I added with YAST was a one-click solution &#8211; took me an hour before I could make it work &#8211; and when Gwibber was installed, SuSe told me happily that I couldn&#8217;t run it on a KDE desktop.</p>
<p>With Ubuntu, if I install Gnome OR KDE applications, it gets all of the libraries (For Amarok, I think the bigger part of the downloads are the KDE libraries that don&#8217;t come with a Gnome desktop &#8211; but with SuSe it doesn&#8217;t bother, just says it won&#8217;t work!!)</p>
<p>After installing nVidia, it said &#8216;edit your Xorg file and reboot&#8217;<br />
It did NOT tell me the location of the file, or what to edit!!!</p>
<p>Ubuntu sometimes tells you to do something in terminal, and it&#8217;s so easy &#8216;edit your etc/bash.rc file&#8217; and it also tells you exactly what to edit.</p>
<p>It takes an hour to download and install 30 themes from gnome-desktop sites, and after doing that, your desktop looks better than ANY freshly installed distro.</p>
<p>Compiz runs more smoothly on Ubuntu than any distro I tried also.</p>
<p>No competition, apt-get has super powers.</p>
<p>cowsay moo</p>
<p>(If you have Ubuntu, stick that in your terminal <img src='http://www.freetechie.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  if you don&#8217;t have cowsay, it will tell you what to do.. just try it!)<br />
_____</p>
<p> &#8212;&#8211;<br />
        \   ^__^<br />
         \  (oo)\_______<br />
            (__)\       )\/\<br />
                ||&#8212;-w |<br />
                ||     ||</p>
<p>Not sure it will look right after posting, the font will be changed&#8230; but you can cut and paste it into terminal to get the right effect. Sooo cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Ramankit</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8101</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramankit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kalista

little knowledge is dangerous man............. have u ever tried vlc, MPlayer on linux. Let me tell u, u r acting like a asshole......</description>
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<p>little knowledge is dangerous man&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. have u ever tried vlc, MPlayer on linux. Let me tell u, u r acting like a asshole&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kalista</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-8091</link>
		<dc:creator>kalista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-7456&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@lanzce&lt;/a&gt; 

You think windows is crap yet you can&#039;t even play DVD&#039;s on linux? You&#039;re a lame ass poser.</description>
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<p>You think windows is crap yet you can&#8217;t even play DVD&#8217;s on linux? You&#8217;re a lame ass poser.</p>
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		<title>By: Albie</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-2/#comment-7825</link>
		<dc:creator>Albie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 11:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another brilliant article. But for me Ubuntu is just another distro for entry users, while OpenSUSE gives the real spirit of linux. I had nothing against Ubuntu since this distro offers a wide range of support from community to gurus and updates as well. But for me Ubuntu is lacking of something that I found on OpenSUSE(11.1). You better to try it by your self to see the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another brilliant article. But for me Ubuntu is just another distro for entry users, while OpenSUSE gives the real spirit of linux. I had nothing against Ubuntu since this distro offers a wide range of support from community to gurus and updates as well. But for me Ubuntu is lacking of something that I found on OpenSUSE(11.1). You better to try it by your self to see the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: mvoe</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-7818</link>
		<dc:creator>mvoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 10:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with most people is that they have a perception of Microsoft as being an unforgiving dictator. They don&#039;t realize that it is one of the most successful companies that has never seen losses in all the years that it has existed, except probably until recently, and that&#039;s a great feat. People should think about it, if they want to start a company, would they want to see losses? And as Vista has shown, Microsoft can&#039;t expect customers to take crap, and a lot of people downgraded to XP. I personally think that Ubuntu has done it&#039;s job. It&#039;s levelled the playing field. If Microsoft and Novell decide on a partnership, it&#039;s because the customers want more than either of the two companies can provide them, and because Microsoft is learning to evolve. It makes business sense. Novell has a lot of stake in SuSE. I don&#039;t think they will do anything without thinking about whether it&#039;s going to come back and bite them. People talk about software freedom, but they fail to see that most of the contribution to the free software in use has actually come from big companies. Red Hat is a major contributor to linux kernel. Novell has been sponsoring KDE for quite a while. Gnome has it&#039;s sponsors too. Oh, and all the repositories are made possible by major companies as well. Ofcourse we have Debian that sails in its own boat. I think people should learn to look at the bigger picture, and not argue on things like Synaptic works and YaST doesn&#039;t work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with most people is that they have a perception of Microsoft as being an unforgiving dictator. They don&#8217;t realize that it is one of the most successful companies that has never seen losses in all the years that it has existed, except probably until recently, and that&#8217;s a great feat. People should think about it, if they want to start a company, would they want to see losses? And as Vista has shown, Microsoft can&#8217;t expect customers to take crap, and a lot of people downgraded to XP. I personally think that Ubuntu has done it&#8217;s job. It&#8217;s levelled the playing field. If Microsoft and Novell decide on a partnership, it&#8217;s because the customers want more than either of the two companies can provide them, and because Microsoft is learning to evolve. It makes business sense. Novell has a lot of stake in SuSE. I don&#8217;t think they will do anything without thinking about whether it&#8217;s going to come back and bite them. People talk about software freedom, but they fail to see that most of the contribution to the free software in use has actually come from big companies. Red Hat is a major contributor to linux kernel. Novell has been sponsoring KDE for quite a while. Gnome has it&#8217;s sponsors too. Oh, and all the repositories are made possible by major companies as well. Ofcourse we have Debian that sails in its own boat. I think people should learn to look at the bigger picture, and not argue on things like Synaptic works and YaST doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Stifu</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-7790</link>
		<dc:creator>Stifu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A definite advantage for openSUSE (that will make me switch soon): Mono. with openSUSE, you&#039;re not stuck with a nearly 1-year old version (ie: one or two major versions behind), and can easily grab the latest versions. Most people may not care, but as a Mono developer, this is a big plus for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A definite advantage for openSUSE (that will make me switch soon): Mono. with openSUSE, you&#8217;re not stuck with a nearly 1-year old version (ie: one or two major versions behind), and can easily grab the latest versions. Most people may not care, but as a Mono developer, this is a big plus for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthiban</title>
		<link>http://www.freetechie.com/blog/opensuse-11-the-perfect-ubuntu-replacement-opensuse-vs-ubuntu/comment-page-1/#comment-7729</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthiban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 12:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article is nice, however one correction: YaST means Yet Another &#039;Setup&#039; Tool.</description>
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